ralfy review 788 – Old Pulteney 12yo @40%vol: (2019)



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44 Comments
  1. Reply
    Mark K August 13, 2019 at 12:43 am

    It’s been 40% for a while, even before the rebrand. I suppose things have to change if they want to sell a 12 year old for under £25.

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    xiamengbaby August 13, 2019 at 12:56 am

    Ralfy's reviewed this twice previously with scores of 89 and 90. Now with a scoring of only 83, something seems to be rotten in the state of Denmark. I went out and bought a bottle after having saw Ralfy's second review (90), which was the first review I saw of this OP 12 yr old. My only criticism, which Ralfy mentioned, was that it should be bottled at 46%. The bottle here in the US is at least at 43% but it still seemed a bit anemic. I did enjoy it however, and it was a bit of a value compared to some of the other 12 year olds available. The price has gone up nearly 30% in my area in the past few years, however. In regards to the box, it used to have a much sturdier canister that it came in with a metal bottom, I believe. Lastly, I hope they don't dumb it down to 40% (here in the US) as some others have mentioned may be in the works. That would certainly be a step in the wrong direction. That has happened with my economy malt go-to, Speyburn 10 year old. Was at 43% here in the US, but now the new version is at 40%. It is now off my list.

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    brian blair August 13, 2019 at 1:07 am

    god ive seen at least 700 …..IM OLD

  4. Reply
    Mark Evans August 13, 2019 at 1:08 am

    Quite a fall from its last mark….

  5. Reply
    brian blair August 13, 2019 at 1:18 am

    I also guessed 83, do i win £10?

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    Vesbolk August 13, 2019 at 1:20 am

    Thanks for the mediocre mark on a scotch that’s going down hill. I see it happening with other distilleries too that are trying to mass produce and sell into this booming market. I look for older bottles.

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    Game Czar August 13, 2019 at 1:36 am

    Hey, finally a malt people can buy at a store! Even if its a repeat, at least its not reviewing something most viewers won't ever see.

  8. Reply
    Yurius I August 13, 2019 at 1:40 am

    What is that "malt" mark means in this context?

  9. Reply
    Big nose shaver August 13, 2019 at 1:41 am

    Ralfy you have far more scotch knowledge than I do but anyone who reckons they can smell guava and gooseberry in it is taking the piss. Love your reviews etc but enough with the random ingredients.

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    Leonnidas * August 13, 2019 at 1:56 am

    Thank you

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    Leonnidas * August 13, 2019 at 2:08 am

    I'd take the good old pulteney 12 over a few much more prestigious and pricey brands.

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    Dram Stroker August 13, 2019 at 2:10 am

    Hmmm. Changes… I liked the old label more

  13. Reply
    Leonid Notik August 13, 2019 at 2:43 am

    Once a great whiskey, today a shity rebranding, high prices, low quality. Pultiney is dead to me.

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    bestdefence August 13, 2019 at 2:49 am

    ‘This would be better bottled at 46’ and so you add water diluting it below 40?

  15. Reply
    Darkolee August 13, 2019 at 2:54 am

    Love Pultney, absolutely love it, if you are reading this, buy it!

  16. Reply
    DavidUKesb August 13, 2019 at 3:01 am

    No Kilchoman reviews recently Ralfy?

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    chrish12345 August 13, 2019 at 3:03 am

    i really wouldn't mind paying more for a properly presented Pulteney 12 but in my opinion this is just sad stuff, a shadow of its former self and just boring

  18. Reply
    W P August 13, 2019 at 3:07 am

    One day when our species has reach Spirit-ual transcendence, all whiskies will come with a complementary universal measuring tool.

  19. Reply
    Gary Rebok August 13, 2019 at 3:09 am

    I prefer the previous branding and ABV and consumed quite a few of them

  20. Reply
    John Woolfenden August 13, 2019 at 3:27 am

    What say to the new 15 y.o. at 46%?

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    badasspuppy August 13, 2019 at 3:32 am

    I've seen some reviews saying this new version isn't as good as the previous one. Good to know you still find it worthy. I can order again 🙂

  22. Reply
    Kes FitzGerald August 13, 2019 at 3:37 am

    40 ABV is just too low for this dram.

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    Jan DeWitt August 13, 2019 at 3:41 am

    Wow, OP12 has fallen 7% since Ralfy last reviewed it…I’ll be on the lookout for some of the older stuff here in the states…

  24. Reply
    David Vickers August 13, 2019 at 3:47 am

    Ralfy… can you cover a highly innocuous topic in your extras!!

    How to pour a whiskey bottle without a drip!

    I think you can get an extras out of this one!

  25. Reply
    Go Habs August 13, 2019 at 3:47 am

    Picked up the old 12 this weekend.

  26. Reply
    Vintagegijoefreak August 13, 2019 at 3:59 am

    Bought a 12yo for the US—market which was 43%. They should release all of the 12yo`s at 43%. Much much better!!!

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    Scotchgod August 13, 2019 at 4:04 am

    This used to be one of my favorite, easy access daily drams years ago , but I lost it on the way. Anyway, there's better stuff in this price range like Tomatin 12 or Legacy.

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    Andrei Amodia Photography August 13, 2019 at 4:08 am

    I was staring at this bottle earlier when I was at K&L wines, but decided to get the Glenmorangie 12 Quinta

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    Chris Holdsworth August 13, 2019 at 4:12 am

    Ralfy 257* 2012 * Old Pulteney 12: 89/100
    Ralfy 553 * 2015 * Old Pulteney 12: 90/100
    Ralfy 788 * 2019 * Old Pulteney 12: 83/100

    My take:
    Seems like the advice is to avoid the new bottles (unless you're getting it at 43%), find the old bottles if you really want this one, or buy something that's nicer and at a better price. They're out there! Put pressure on Old Pulteney with your wallets – they'll switch to 46% and un-chillfiltered if there sales drop and pressure exists for them to do so

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    Tequila Sunrise August 13, 2019 at 4:15 am

    40% and chilled-filtered is big no for me.

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    Jag Singh August 13, 2019 at 4:25 am

    Hi Ralfy. I've always been intrigued by coastal malts and I do wonder if peat has a part to play. Interestingly you mention OP12 is unpeated, so I take it that the savoury notes are from the coastal air being breathed in by the casks? Is that right? Is the same true for Clynelish, Oban & Scapa?

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    Cartoon Face August 13, 2019 at 5:18 am

    Thankyou for the mention Ralfy !!

  33. Reply
    Kevin Carpenter August 13, 2019 at 5:23 am

    Whoa, I just bought this bottle the other day. Nice. Edit: I was underwhelmed. Still always a great experience to do a tasting along with an experienced taster.

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    BourbonRyeScotch August 13, 2019 at 5:34 am

    Why are some ‘coastal’ malts produced by coastal distilleries considered more ‘coastal’ than others? For example, if you take a look on the map, Glenglassaugh distillery is located 200 meters from the shoreline. Yet I never heard anyone calling Glenglassaugh a coastal malt?!

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    Lord Prefab August 13, 2019 at 5:35 am

    Got to agree, the new box is a nightmare, especially that useless top.

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    Rowland Hempel August 13, 2019 at 6:17 am

    Attributes to be considered when establishing a malt mark: ABV percentage, colour, nose, taste, finish and glug factor. Brilliant.

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    sav August 13, 2019 at 7:12 am

    I'm going to have to disagree with Ralfy about the future of Old Pulteney 12. This edition is their supermarket product aimed at high sales volume creating plenty of cash rolling in on a regular basis. Few distilleries can afford to sell to anoraks only because it means raising the prices and suffering an irregular cash flow. By comparison, the Old Pulteney 12 is 24 pounds at Tesco while the 15 is currently 69 pounds at Whisky Exchange. Old Pulteney still offer plenty of 46% product in the 15, 16 and 18. I'm not sure about NCF. They are quite openly covering both ends of the market and you can't blame them for that.

    You gets what you pays for.

  38. Reply
    Gabriel Luongo August 13, 2019 at 7:14 am

    It's very relevant to note that in certain markets this has been bottled at 40% (go look at his past reviews), but in the US it has historically been 43% even with the old packaging and presentation. I've yet to see the new version in the US, but I think it's still 43%. Would have been great for Ralfy and the viewers if he got 43% there. Or 46%!

  39. Reply
    Ryan Uchman August 13, 2019 at 7:24 am

    How does the new OP 18 compare to the 17? We haven’t received the new core range yet where I live, and was wondering if I should stock up on the 17s that are still available. Thanks.

  40. Reply
    Justin Martin August 13, 2019 at 9:31 am

    Whether it’s a good dram or not, there’s a lot of wisdom in this review. Appreciate it.

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    l'altro signor G August 13, 2019 at 10:06 am

    I don't buy new whiskies bottled below 45,8%. Make some exceptions for old stuff.

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    Loathsome Kowboy August 13, 2019 at 10:24 am

    Ralfy dear, I'm salivating for that Glen Scotia Campbeltown Malt Festival bottle you've got smiling out from the corner. It's on my short list of the very highly Ralfy-recommended [copyright sign] malts to get my paws on!

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    ross maclean August 13, 2019 at 11:09 am

    It's sad. The more affordable Old Pulteney becomes the worse value for money it becomes. I used to recommend it was a great value whisky but now it's so average it's almost a waste of money.

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    QuinMighty August 13, 2019 at 11:40 am

    I bought a bottle here in South Africa. It does not have the white label, but rather just writing on the glass itself. 43% so I guess I'm one of the luckier ones. Also packaged in an oval shaped, hard container with metal lid. Have not tasted it yet.

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